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Secession Petitions Flood White House Website

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the we're-leaving dept.

Politics 1163

First time accepted submitter RNLockwood writes "Political.com reports that several petitions to secede from the Union have been created at the White House site, We The People, for many states; all since Obama's re-election. Texas and Louisiana lead the list with Texas needing only 7,000 more signatures to qualify for a White House response, probably less now as more Americans have become aware of the petitions. It would be interesting to see a comparison done of these petitions and the Post Election Racist Tweets Map."

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If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960609)

..you'd find these states well ranked.

Secession is an economically unviable option. If you want copious analyses ask the Quebec'ers.

We in the US seem to have a hard time admitting when we are wrong. Mitt was a dreadful choice for a conservative presidential candidate. Obama's winning the election was not a sign that the poor Texans are oppressed. They simply picked a moderate who had to pivot to the right of Rick Perry to win the primaries, and then back to the center to have a chance in the final election. I don't think anyone could have done that job any better than Mitt did, but even with 3 to 1 outspending of their opponents it wasn't enough. I sent my $100 to Buddy Roemer to try to get an honest man into the race, and honesty lost.

So, please quit your whining and next time pick an actuall conservative. Pick someone with a tax plan that adds up, low spending, little war-lust, and who understands what a disaster the "personhood" amendment would be, and then you'll have a race.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Funny)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960657)

Can't we at least let them try it this time?

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (3, Insightful)

rsborg (111459) | about 2 years ago | (#41960733)

Can't we at least let them try it this time?

Note: This is some random guy in a state requesting it for his entire state. I'd say the answer should be: ask your duly elected representatives, not me, the President.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960813)

It would save us a shitload of tax money and we would no longer have to worry about the American taliban getting their voice in our laws.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2012/09/who-receives-the-disproportionate-share-of-government-spending.html [typepad.com]

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960911)

Also we could stand to shed a state so we won't have to buy new flags when Puerto Rico becomes a state.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Interesting)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#41961011)

Yes quite. This is the perfect example of a "states rights" issue. If you want to succeed then you need to have a local succession convention in your own state. Dragging the "enemy" in Washington into it really seems beyond absurd.

It's like genuine fire eaters petitioning Lincoln.

These people are too stupid to even know what they're asking for.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960661)

Secession is an economically unviable option

You may be very wrong given prevailing national energy and environmental policy.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (1)

SerpentMage (13390) | about 2 years ago | (#41960711)

No it is a bad policy as the problems it entails outweigh the benefits. What if the US said, "sure you go on your own." BTW remember those businesses that wanted to ship products to us? Oh yeah not gonna happen without tariffs, delays at the border, and so on.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 2 years ago | (#41960879)

I'm curious what that would mean for the military... how would they deal with the bases, people, information, etc... Any idea?

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960931)

I think the USA still have a base in Cuba, it won't be difficult to reach an agreement with Texas.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (2)

amiga3D (567632) | about 2 years ago | (#41960955)

Think of the foreign aid!

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | about 2 years ago | (#41960995)

Yeah, I have an idea. They would not let the state secede. That is the precedent set by previous administrations.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960837)

Um, no. Not in the least bit wrong. You may have been sold the idea that energy companies are "suffering under an enormous burden of environmental regulations" but it's wildly disproportionate to the actual costs. Getting your oil, or power 20% cheaper might be nice, but creating your own borders, setting up your own military, printing your own money... trading with people with whom you don't share an ocean... these are expensive undertakings.

The small impacts of an environmental free-for-all, and cheap gas are trivial compared to the scope of this undertaking. Iran has strong religious values, and gas at 50 cents a gallon and the most polluted capital city anywhere.

http://www.economist.com/node/17804554 [economist.com]

Be very careful what you wish for.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Insightful)

mbkennel (97636) | about 2 years ago | (#41960883)

| Iran has strong religious values, and gas at 50 cents a gallon and the most polluted capital city anywhere.

That is what they wish for.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (3, Insightful)

Bodhammer (559311) | about 2 years ago | (#41960663)

You mean Gary Johnson?

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41960839)

Hey, he was my "protest" vote!

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960693)

What conservatives need is to make a decision: fiscally conservative or socially conservative. Pick one, then stop trying to "purify" the party to get rid of the 70% of Americans who aren't both then whining that they're losing because of welfare leeches.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960759)

If you pay attention to what they have been doing recently they made that choice. They are firmly going with social conservatism and spending like a sailor on shore leave. Sadly they want to do that last part and cut taxes at the same time.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Informative)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41960739)

They did pick an actual conservative. Obama. The guy is to the right on Nixon and Reagan on many issues.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960965)

Ah, I see you're from Colorado... And no, we now what you're smoking..

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Informative)

lysdexia (897) | about 2 years ago | (#41961027)

Hell yes. I grew up with older relatives who equated Richard Nixon with Atilla the Hun. The stuff that got him impeached would barely be reported on mainstream news these days. And we almost had Romney/Obama care back in the 70's. Do a google search for Nixon Permenente and lose your mind.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (0)

Bradmont (513167) | about 2 years ago | (#41960765)

Secession is an economically unviable option. If you want copious analyses ask the Quebec'ers.

Actually, don't. As an anglo Canadian who moved to Quebec, those who hold on to separatism are probably about as logical about it as these Romney supporters...

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Insightful)

mbkennel (97636) | about 2 years ago | (#41960797)

"Pick someone with a tax plan that adds up, low spending, little war-lust, and who understands what a disaster the "personhood" amendment would be, and then you'll have a race."

Sorry, but Bill Clinton is not eligible to run.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (4, Interesting)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#41960845)

then back to the center to have a chance in the final election ... I don't think anyone could have done that job any better than Mitt did

I'm aware I don't watch the same news as most Republicans, but I got the reverse impression. Before he won the primaries he actually did look more moderate than Rick Santorum and Rick Perry. After winning the primaries he picked Ryan, got recorded with the "47%" remark, spoke out more strongly against gay marriage and Planned Parenthood.

Was honestly wondering why he seemed to feel the need to appease the far right instead of the center after already winning the primaries. My only guess was that he feared the far right might get too disgusted with the election to vote if he came off as moderate.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (4, Interesting)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960953)

I don't understand it either. The Republicans have the hick and religious nutter vote locked up, why court them at all?

Playing towards the middle could win an election, but instead they take good middle of the road candidates like McCain and Romney and saddle them with a fringe nutcase VP. Then somehow convince them that it is in their own best interest to act like a far right winger instead of just acting like themselves. Not only does it turn these candidates into liars/flip-floppers but it dirves away votes.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Insightful)

SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) | about 2 years ago | (#41960851)

Mitt was a dreadful choice for a conservative presidential candidate.

Romney was a far right conservative presidential candidate, Obama is not "moderate" at all as he is a right wing conservative.

What is bad is America had no left wing candidate at all.

We're going how the rest of the world define political spectrum, not America.

Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... (5, Interesting)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960891)

Jill Stein was just a figment of my imagination?

I really do remember marking that box on the ballot.

first post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960629)

fp rulez

Re:first post (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960649)

u fail it

Re:first post (3, Funny)

JustOK (667959) | about 2 years ago | (#41961003)

He seceded from the main thread.

7000 more needed for a response (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960639)

Response:

No.

Re:7000 more needed for a response (4, Insightful)

HiThere (15173) | about 2 years ago | (#41960905)

That *should* be the response, however, judging by past actions, if it gets close to the point where a response is promissed, the petition will quietly disappear.

That's what's happened in other instances where he didn't want to respond.

Re:7000 more needed for a response (3, Insightful)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 2 years ago | (#41960961)

Either that or the person chosen to write the response was ridiculous, i.e. director of the TSA responding to the "Abolish the TSA" petition...

Re:7000 more needed for a response (5, Interesting)

Smidge204 (605297) | about 2 years ago | (#41960983)

Here's the proper response, IMHO:

"Dear Pertitioners;

If you loved this country as much as you claim to, you would know - or would make the effort to learn - that the Executive Branch of the Federal Government has absolutely no authority to determine who is and is not a state or territory. Next time try talking to your Senators and Representatives.

Sincerely,
President Barack Obama"

Maybe it would be worded a little less snarky, but that's how I'd do it.
=Smidge=

Good luck with that. (5, Funny)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#41960651)

I'm conflicted whether Obama's response should be:

Yeah yeah, don't let the door hit you.

or

Why don't you try and see how that works out for you.

Re:Good luck with that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960741)

A better response would be "WWABD" (What Would Abraham Lincoln Do?)

Re:Good luck with that. (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41960849)

Obama says that he models himself after Lincoln, so...

Re:Good luck with that. (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#41961043)

Do you have a photo of him with a top hat and a cool beard? I'd love to have that.

Re:Good luck with that. (2, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41960835)

I'd much prefer "Then quit bitching and pack up your shit. Mexico isn't very far away"

Re:Good luck with that. (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960865)

I guess everything IS bigger in Texas. Including the crybabies.

Re:Good luck with that. (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 2 years ago | (#41960875)

Ya, how do you respond to that.

There is no appropriate response to that request.

FIRST (1)

rsmith84 (2540216) | about 2 years ago | (#41960665)

A Federation of Independent Republics STates

Re:FIRST (1)

rsmith84 (2540216) | about 2 years ago | (#41960683)

Republic*

White House Response (3, Funny)

RelaxedTension (914174) | about 2 years ago | (#41960667)

No

Re:White House Response (4, Insightful)

multicoregeneral (2618207) | about 2 years ago | (#41961031)

These "we the people" petitions are a joke. At best they'll get a response that says the whitehouse cannot respond for whatever reason they figure is vague enough not to be offensive to anyone at the time.

Now's our chance! (5, Insightful)

ChinggisK (1133009) | about 2 years ago | (#41960673)

Quick! Someone make a "Let Texas and Louisiana Secede" petition!

Re:Now's our chance! (2)

Bradmont (513167) | about 2 years ago | (#41960773)

Wish I had mod points...

Re:Now's our chance! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960821)

Mod parent up! I'd sign that in a heartbeat.

Re:Now's our chance! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960895)

But where will we file patent, trademark and copyright lawsuits !!!

Re:Now's our chance! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960897)

Here, I made one. [whitehouse.gov] Probably not the most cleverly written but hey.

The likely response: (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960705)

Blow it out your ass. We survived Bush, you can survive Obama. Grow the fuck up.

Re:The likely response: (5, Interesting)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41960763)

Many people survived neither Bush nor Obama.

Re:The likely response: (5, Funny)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41960859)

I think Presidents should automatically get added to the list of hurricane names.

Is this news? (-1, Flamebait)

cashman73 (855518) | about 2 years ago | (#41960709)

This doesn't even meet the broad definition of news , much less news for nerds . Slashdot, you're disappointing me. All this means is that a bunch of random retards in predominantly southern states have figured out how to create an online petition on the White House website and are crapflooding them. Even the GNAA is disappointed at this. Wake me if these nutjobs manage to convince a Governor or State Legislature to draft articles of secession.

Several V flood (1)

History's Coming To (1059484) | about 2 years ago | (#41960725)

So which is it, "a flood" or "several"? I realise there's probably an xkcd for this, but floods and "several" seem to be two different extremes to me. I wonder how many are submitted in the average month as well. In the UK we can also submit online petitions to a government website, they're mostly "bring corporal/capital punishment", "make region X independent" and "say the UK government loves Bieber". Doesn't mean any of these things are likely to happen, or indeed a good idea.

Re:Several V flood (2)

gman003 (1693318) | about 2 years ago | (#41960769)

I realise there's probably an xkcd for this, but floods and "several" seem to be two different extremes to me.

Obligatory XKCD [xkcd.com]

Re:Several V flood (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960857)

According to the article and counting the states listed, that's 16 states that have made petitions. That's over 30% of the entire USA.

Yeah, I'd say that qualifies as a flood. It may not involve large numbers in general, but that percentage is pretty damn up there.

Bad at Everything (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960731)

They petitioned the White House to secede from the Union...

Re:Bad at Everything (5, Funny)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41960795)

You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

Re:Bad at Everything (2)

HiThere (15173) | about 2 years ago | (#41960957)

Blazing Saddles!

Let them go. (5, Insightful)

bmo (77928) | about 2 years ago | (#41960749)

Being a resident of New England, I'm tired of paying for their highways and such while they accuse us here as being Un-American.

For fucks sake. Leave already.

What I found especially amusing was the tea-tard messages claiming people would high-tail it to Canada if Obama got re-elected. Yeah, the country next door with single-payer health insurance, decent social security, more gun regulation, etc.

Go. Go to Canada.

--
BMO

Re:Let them go. (1)

twakar (128390) | about 2 years ago | (#41961005)

As a Canadian...

KEEP THEM.. don't bring us into this please..or we'll hold back the maple syrup.

We don't want your nutjobs

The Texas one is now over the threshold (4, Insightful)

sexybomber (740588) | about 2 years ago | (#41960753)

29,025 and presumably climbing. I say, great. Good riddance.

Something not adding up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960757)

So as the summary says, there's several states that have created petitions on there (because we all know how totally effective that is).

What's peculiar is that Florida was on the list. If recent memory serves me correctly, didn't Florida vote Obama? Umm... guys... he won. You're petitioning against your own victory.

I assume it's a pile of the 'Romney' supporters who created that petition... do you guys not realize that your petition is doomed to be essentially ignored (moreso than the others, anyway)? Because y'know, they can just respond with "Your state voted for Obama, Obama won, congratulations, quit complaining".

Although personally, I think it'd be about the best thing in the world if the USA were to split apart into North half/South half or something, since OBVIOUSLY this country has some severe agreement issues, and always has ever since the first days of the USA.

Won't happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960767)

Sure, the general population can push for secession. If enough of them push, maybe the state reps will take them seriously. But in order to secede, it needs to either be agreed to across the board (which I cannot see happening), or the state in question has to have a big enough army to defend itself against the rest of their former country. If the state can't defend itself against an invasion, there's absolutely no point in even trying to secede.

Bunch of malcontents who have been lapping up far too much of Faux News' spin. They'll be dragged back down to earth really fast, if it gets to the point where it even looks like their wishes will come to fruition.

Re:Won't happen. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41961045)

Sure, the general population can push for secession. If enough of them push, maybe the state reps will take them seriously. But in order to secede, it needs to either be agreed to across the board (which I cannot see happening), or the state in question has to have a big enough army to defend itself against the rest of their former country. If the state can't defend itself against an invasion, there's absolutely no point in even trying to secede.

Bunch of malcontents who have been lapping up far too much of Faux News' spin. They'll be dragged back down to earth really fast, if it gets to the point where it even looks like their wishes will come to fruition.

In modern times it's a lot easier to have an army that can deter invasion. You just need a handful of nukes. Since the US is a nuclear power the ability of a state to enforce it's secession is a very different game than it was the last time it was tried. It'll depend a lot on what kind of defection rate they get from nuclear assets when they declare independence, and not nearly as much on the ratio of national guard to federal army.

The return the Confederacy? (5, Interesting)

inhuman_4 (1294516) | about 2 years ago | (#41960783)

I'm not American, but it seems to me that there is a growing geographical dichotomy between the left leaning states and the right leaning states. Some of the old confederate states esp. Texas seem to be moving more and more to the right as the coastal states seem to be moving more to the left.

The left states seem to be moving closer to the Europe and the rest of the world in terms of politics. That is being less religious, pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-war, pro-environment, etc. While the right leaning states seem to be rallying around the Church.

While I realize it is not a possibility anytime soon, but in 100 years could we see the return of the Confederate States of America?

Re:The return the Confederacy? (3, Informative)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41960967)

While I realize it is not a possibility anytime soon, but in 100 years could we see the return of the Confederate States of America?

They'll have to pick a different capital - they lost Virginia, by virtue of it being too close to the Capitol. Or they could just split it up like last time. And they'd better hurry before whites are a minority in Texas. Currently they are only 52% of the population, and Hispanics make up something like 90% of the population growth in the state.

I think Republicans are going to either change tactics, or become a permanent minority party.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960969)

It's really not that clear cut. Take a look at the "Purple Map" of the 2012 election (basically blends red and blue in the ratio of the popular votes):

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2012/

There are definitely pockets of pure blue and red, but in general you'll see that there is a spectrum.

There are definitely folks in Texas and Louisiana and the other states that are rolling their eyes to all this secession nonsense. Note that this was triggered by a handful of twits who were brainwashed to think that another 4 years of Obama meant the end of the world. I recall that there were many lefties in 2004 who felt the same about George W. Bush getting another 4 years in office. In either election, the result may not have been the best thing to happen to our country, but we're still here.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (4, Informative)

LionKimbro (200000) | about 2 years ago | (#41961059)

And if you look at a county map, you will almost certainly see the CITIES.

Time to update the urban archipelago maps. [urbanarchipelago.com] I bet they still hold.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960981)

Nope. The "social issues" typically driving the right will die off with its aging support base. Typically how these things go once the winds of change have started blowing.

I'm hoping once we're passed that we can get back to having a responsible opposition party that sees empire building and a giant bureaucratic clusterfuck of a federal government as a bad thing, instead of the opposition party of "don't tell me what to do but you better not do that!"

Re:The return the Confederacy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960989)

I think it's pretty simple-minded to bring religion into it from that perspective. There are many religious people that vote to the left as well. From my perspective it seems that the right uses religion as a catch-all to say if you don't vote for the conservative candidate, it's not God's will or whatever. Pretty sure most religious texts don't talk about the rich guy being at the front of the line no matter if they are conservative or liberal. Period.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (1)

HiThere (15173) | about 2 years ago | (#41960997)

Sorry, but no. The entire country has been moving to the right. This isn't a real surprise, as it's an expected result of an aging population, but it's an unfortunate one to happen just as automation is rendering more and more jobs superfluous.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (2)

amiga3D (567632) | about 2 years ago | (#41961007)

I doubt it. People like to bitch but the 50 States together are a superpower. Separately they're just little countries. The problem is that the art of compromise seems to be lost. No one wants to meet in the middle anymore. We need some leadership that knows how to reach across these boundaries but it appears to be at least four years out and maybe more. It's gonna be a rough ride in the meantime.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41961009)

I'm probably wrong, but in several hundred years (assuming we haven't made the world a radioactive dead rock by that point) I'm predicting more of a South Korea/North Korea type split, where the North is the "normal" half that everyone looks up to, plays well with the rest of the world, and is all fine and good. The 'South' will be a mass religious cult, mired in ancient technology, refusing to do business with the heathens of the world, and still declaring themselves to be the greatest thing since sliced bread... which will be approximately where they will end up technologically as well.

And to the South with their dictatorship, I say good riddance. Then at least they can destroy their own little world, and stop fucking with the rest of the planet.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41961019)

Our military is far too advanced for that to fly. There won't be another Gettysburg, just dead leaders.

Re:The return the Confederacy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41961049)

The states themselves have a lot of power on their own, things aren't even remotely as bad as people paint them to be.

It's simply a matter of our candidate didn't win, theirs did. It's an entirely political play to shift the power balance they lost when Obama won.

Still, I'd be curious to see what happens when they actually succeed. I think people don't realize how much infrastructure a country needs for simple things, that the states have provided for them.

It's kind of sad though, historically speaking, regions with people of same heritage, and same language speakers usually struggled to unite and make a single cohesive nation, these people are going in the opposite direction ... WTF

Let's give them back to Mexico... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960801)

Since Mexico is a libertarian's paradise right now: low taxation, high corruption, and ineffective central government-- you can pretty much do anything you by paying off the right people. It's a wonderland!

Wrong Branch (3, Interesting)

danheskett (178529) | about 2 years ago | (#41960811)

They are asking the wrong branch. The Executive can't change the union. That's a matter for Congress.

Or they can try to re-fight the Civil War. Something tells me the modern rebels would not appreciate a Predator drone armed with a small missile up in their business.

Re:Wrong Branch (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41961051)

You're assuming the rebels won't have predator's and won't have nukes. You can joke all you want, but this is a serious sign of a philosophical divide in our nation and those weapons you think will be in the hands of the Federal Government may not end up there should a civil war envelope our once great nation.

Re:Wrong Branch (-1)

Hnice (60994) | about 2 years ago | (#41961055)

Man, I would pay to see that shit. And I don't just mean that, being from a blue-and-therefore-giver-state, I would *actually* be paying for that. I mean I would buy a fucking ticket. The only mistake we made at Ruby Ridge was not sending in the tanks.

succession = racism? (5, Insightful)

Bodhammer (559311) | about 2 years ago | (#41960827)

So succession = racism? Does the OP work for MSNBC and Chris "Tingles" Matthews?

A fundamental disagreement with the government policies does not automatically equal racism but of course you are free to perpetuate that myth...

Succession? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960945)

Who's equating racism with a number of people or things sharing a specified characteristic and following one after the other?

Re:succession = racism? (0)

Hnice (60994) | about 2 years ago | (#41961037)

No, those two things aren't equal in every case. Just this case.

Fuck The South (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960841)

Still as true as in 2004:
http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

Race card (3, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41960847)

Derp is derp, and insinuating that people who don't like Obama must be racist is a mindless of a cliche of derp as derp gets. Divisive language like that used by the story submitter is a perfect example of how /not/ to bring the country back together after a nasty presidential election.

Stop..It hurts to much to laugh at this... (0)

who_stole_my_kidneys (1956012) | about 2 years ago | (#41960903)

it just too damn funny.

A trade? (5, Funny)

SmaryJerry (2759091) | about 2 years ago | (#41960907)

Remove Texas and bring in Puerta Rico so we don't have to change the flags.

Even rats (1)

ozduo (2043408) | about 2 years ago | (#41960915)

Know when to leave a sinking ship!

Wholly Crap! What is wrong with your country?! (1, Troll)

holophrastic (221104) | about 2 years ago | (#41960927)

Look, I hate the way democracy is handled, and I'm as white as most Texans (though no where near as tall), but this kind of thing doesn't just make your entire country look foolish. Quebec's done that to my country for a while. This makes your country look like 14th century racists. It's not even modern racism.

Haven't you guys had civil wars over this shit already? Aren't there movies and books and statues and abstract rail-roads about all of this?

Way to remind everyone that the USoA isn't a country, it's just a collection of independent states. Quebec doesn't want to "leave" Canada, they want to start their own country. Texas wants to simply leave.

Quite frankly, it's embarassing to share a land-mass with you guys. You do know that most of the world can't distinguish Canadians from United Statians, so they call us all Americans, you know, since we share that land mass known as the Americas. The British are going to mock us!

Good thing you still have the right to bare arms. Even if the British aren't coming, I guess the blacks sure are.

Wow. Little brother to big brother, grow up.

Updated map of states net fed taxes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960929)

I'd like to see it compared to an updated map of states' net federal taxes.

Texas could make it on its own, but most Red states receive more federal money than they pay.

As a Louisiana Resident. (4, Interesting)

oic0 (1864384) | about 2 years ago | (#41960939)

Texas could maybe pull it off, Louisiana no... The only industry we have here is the Prison industry and the gov here is corrupt top to bottom. Those that aren't in prison are on food stamps. Its an all around crappy state... Every day I wake up I ask my self WTF am I doing here? "Louisiana's incarceration rate is nearly five times Iran's, 13 times China's and 20 times Germany's.... A majority of Louisiana inmates are housed in for-profit facilities, which must be supplied with a constant influx of human beings"

The country is terminally divided. (2)

hessian (467078) | about 2 years ago | (#41960951)

Whichever side you agree with, you think the other 50% of the country are wrong.

They're not going to change their views.

We have no way to go forward. Bipartisanship is a joke; liberals like methodology, conservatives like results. There is no compatibility.

Further, the liberal side is mostly women, minorities, homosexuals/transgenders and college students. The conservative side is mostly white men.

It's time to either beat down one side, or divide up the country so we all get what we want.

1861's (and 1776's) solution was states' rights.

Wonder what we'll pick, and how bad the ensuing war will be.

Self fulfilling prophecy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960959)

1. Troll/Spam WH petition site making it even more useless than it currently is.

2. Advertise your trolling campaign.

3. Report constantly on the progress of your trolling campaign while speculating now that more people know about it your campaign is about to reach critical mass.

Is it racist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41960971)

Wanting to succeed doesn't necessarily mean you're racist, it just means that you don't like how things are currently run.

3 Words (0)

Hnice (60994) | about 2 years ago | (#41961013)

Let. Them. Go.

I'm so tired of this shit. Let them fucking go. Tennessee's a third world country without federal fucking dollars -- they want a part of that? Let them have it.

Let them eat bibles.

Re:3 Words (2)

bmo (77928) | about 2 years ago | (#41961053)

>Tennessee's a third world country without federal fucking dollars

East Tennessee is a third world country *even with* federal fucking dollars.

--
BMO

"Flood?" (1)

Carcass666 (539381) | about 2 years ago | (#41961033)

Per the article [politico.com] (and submitter, it's politico.com not "political.com"), there more than 10,000 petitions each for Texas and Louisiana secession. Is this even close to a flood by web standards? Just because something happens on the web, does that necessarily make it "news for nerds?" Perhaps it's the inflammatory "racist" link that got the editors' attention. There are plenty of blog sites for "everybody in the South is an idiot racist", why do we have to add Slashdot to the list?

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